One can see the frequency peaks in Figure 1. The analyzed time of Example 1 is equivalent to 1 second (1”). Using the modern piano as the point of reference, the examples of the fortepiano and the HP are compared to it. 2/1, 1st movement, measure 2.įortepiano_Ex.1_Beethoven Piano Sonata, op. Modern Piano_Ex.1_Beethoven Piano Sonata, op. I do wonder however about one a posteriori phenomenon/feature of early pianos and that is their vastly greater clarity in the bass register(s): isn't that, while largely a function of being straight-strung, the result of a range of partials that aren't generating a lot of inharmonicity? my knowledge of acoustics is murky at best, so i really appreciate any indulgence and enlightenment here.Īlso, an internet search turned up these spectral graphs (which do indeed seem to bear out your experience): shame on me, but 'am always happy to learn more and correct deficiencies!
My "understanding" (or i guess, really, lack there of) is admittedly based on old (and very likely bogus) notions from student days working with harpsichords and fortepianos during the "early music renaissance", and i've spent the intervening decades as a very humble working musician (undoubtedly full of all manner of bias and prejudice) without having paid much attention to such things as spectral analysis or a rigorous study of the acoustic properties of the various instruments i've been working with. Not a lot of upper harmonics, Actually, since a few years now, I recorded a lot of ancient pianos and, in general, this is often so. both are very "soft" sounding instruments. I just happened to have recently recorded two Pleyel pianoforte's, one from 1831, the other from 1834 and I would claim the opposite. If any of you experienced folks have any thoughts along these lines, this rookie would be grateful to hear them! is it as good as the best of any pianos out there, including large sampled libraries? Is it as good as a well-recorded live piano? But all this got me thinking a bit about the "detail up top" of Pianoteq 5. I do understand that Greg Well's comments didn't address modelled pianos. whether the Pianoteq 5's strength not necessarily in top end detail? A comparison of the Pianoteq 5 with one of the large sampled library pianos may help answer that, but I don't have access to any of those. I'm interested whether the S90ES is punching above its weight in terms of "detail up top" as Greg Wells puts it, compared to the Pianoteq 5, vs. I expected to see a lot more harmonic signal higher than the 4-5kHz I saw in the S90ES patch, but actually the upper limit of signal was about the same!
I decided to run the same comparison (D4 Blues, I believe is the patch name), and was very surprised. Soon thereafter I bought Pianoteq 5, and am very happy with the sound (I have Stage at the moment). I did a quick test of the S90ES, playing rhythmic chords mainly in the mid to lower octaves (120 Hz to 500 Hz, approximately, two octaves around middle C), and noted that there wasn't much harmonic signal above 4-5 kHz. If it's a great sounding sample, the pianocentric should perform beautifully with it." Some sampled pianos don't have a lot of detail way up top, a bit flat and rolled off sounding, so turning the pianocentric knob to the right won't be as effective. "The better sounding the original source is, the better result you'll get from additional processing. Wells if he thought his PianoCentric would be helpful on the S90ES, and he replied as below: As it was a piano bundled in a DAW, I assumed it might be less than great-sounding (it's the only one I'd ever known for years), so I asked Mr. Many of the links here are affiliate links which we make a commission on to help support the continuation of this subreddit.Hi - I bought PianoCentric, a Waves plug-in by Greg Wells, sometime before I bought Pianoteq 5, when I was using Cubase's Halion Sonic S90ES VST patch. As such, please do not message asking for posting access if you are not a developer or an authorised dealer. All sales are from legitimate sources and the only people permitted to post here besides myself are developers and authorised dealers themselves.
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